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157 posts in less than 11 hours. Battlefront can say what they want. They have parted with their core consumers (aka minority segment of their customer base) in selecting their subject for their first--and because it's the first--most important CMx2 game. I really don't care if they are "burned out" with WW II. GM may be "burned out" with makng Chevys. But both are a business and must deliver a product that the customer wants.
Besides there are many other options for the subject of the initial offering other than a made up brush war conflict some two years in the future.
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#12
10-09-2005, 01:07 PM
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Generally, I think is not correct to expect a desert battle like Africa Korps or a modern setting in Iran/Iraq, even if this Alpha Version(!) screen shots look like. Can one of you remember the Alpha screenshots of CMBO? I wasn't very interested into CM before I played the CMBO Demo, that's 5 years ago now, since that day I have rarely played something different than BO, BB or AK. The setting is indeed a big surprise and means that I have lost my arse in a bet (ouch...). But I have no problem with it. It's similiar to 'Operation Flashpoint', and this was a great game. So I just wait for the demo before I make my judgement.
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#13
10-09-2005, 03:06 PM
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I for one am in agreement with Scipio. I was hoping for Kharkov (1, 2 or 3) or something along those lines, but the screenies look very nice and thank God for the ability to play Blue on Blue cuz I would have to turn down any game that would force me to play as a terrorist (another LARGE reason I don't do Counter Suck.) The demo ought to be out in a few monthesd. I'll play it to death then buy the retail version and play it to death.
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10-09-2005, 04:10 PM
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I'm very unlikely to buy it because it isn't historically based. If they had picked a historical conflict, I would be interested, but hypothetical conflicts against the Syrians just don't raise my interest level. I'd probably have even gotten excited if it was a hypothetical Red Storm Rising type game -- 80s war against Russia, but this is just boring to me.
Too bad. I hope it works out for them financially. Maybe we'll see a decent historical game with this engine by the end of 06.
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10-14-2005, 04:04 PM
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Here is a serious question for you all. Do you have to own Shock Force to be able to play the up and comming WW2 version?
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10-14-2005, 04:12 PM
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No--unless they change their minds.
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10-14-2005, 04:16 PM
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I can't see it happening that way either. It would be an act of monumental crassness from BF!
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10-14-2005, 04:20 PM
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They will release add-ons to some of the stand-alone games, but you don't need CM:SF to play, shall we say, CM:Operation Overlord
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10-14-2005, 04:28 PM
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No Kent,
There are main game releases and add on modules. Shock Force is a main game which will have add-on modules in the future. When the WW2 main game comes out, they will release modules for it. Example A - WW2 Main game "Allies 1944" Module #1 Normandy Module #2 Falaise Pocket (God I hope!!) Module #3 The Ruhr Valley * All units are backwards compatible. So any new infantry units that come out for the "Ruhr Valley" module, you'll be able to use in the "Falaise Pocket" module. Now if a Civil War Main game comes out, you will not be able to use the "Normandy" module with it. I'm going to buy Shock Force just to see how the game engine plays. I'm sure it'll be fun for a short while. However I'm obviously not interested in fighting Syrians  If they were going to do a more modern conflict I think Fulda Gap would've been really interesting. Oh well, while we wait for the WW2 game we'll have CMC!!
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10-14-2005, 04:37 PM
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WHAT.... you mean you never grew up thinking what it would be like to fight the Syrians? How sheltered are you! My dreams have come true.... Could these idiots have missed the boat that much?
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